| Let's take keroro gunso(Sgt. Frog) as an example, I marathoned it when I was grade 8(2006-2007) and found its slice of life comedy gold, and a lot of cartoon and anime watchers from 7 to 14 years old seemed to enjoy it a lot. Of course. Most people older than 15 will find it a complete waste of time, and over the top, exaggerated and retarded(much in the way Spongebob is). It is enjoyable for kids, so for a kid show it should get a 8-10 in review and indeed it did get 8+, cool!!! BUT what about other shows??? Should Shonen series be rated from the perspective of the audience that enjoys Shonen in Review Section? Does the same concept extend to genres too? Like Ecchi Harem, school, slice of life, and thriller?? Ultimately, is it a problem that a viewer to rate series from a non-target audience perspective in a review?? To me, its yes all the way. What about you guys? Edit: I am not saying to not put your opinions on a show when you are not the target audience; I am saying that reviews not written from the targent audience's perspective defeat its very purpose. |
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| Yo, fam, you dissing Spongebob? Are you crazy? |
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| This things just like gramps watching ecchi series and giving it a 1 for nudity. Noting your can do about it |
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| the time when even reviewer totaly forgot what the series purpose, that is why i don't read review. |
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| I don't think so. Just as a show has a target audience so too does a review. Reviews on MAL are to help inform other MAL users (mostly teens and young adults) as to rather or not they may enjoy a show. There is no reason for a review to force it's perspective to be that of the shows target audience. |
| If I wanted to review a season of Precure would it be better to view it from the eyes of a 4-12 year old girl or a 16-35 year old man? I'm an 18 year old man so I'm actually part of the latter demographic, but the former demographic is who it was originally intended for. I've never been a little Japanese girl before so I can't exactly see it from their perspective. We obviously have similar enough taste that I should be allowed to give my own honest opinion on it. |
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zombie_pegasus said: If I wanted to review a season of Precure would it be better to view it from the eyes of a 4-12 year old girl or a 16-35 year old man? I'm an 18 year old man so I'm actually part of the latter demographic, but the former demographic is who it was originally intended for. I've never been a little Japanese girl before so I can't exactly see it from their perspective. We obviously have similar enough taste that I should be allowed to give my own honest opinion on it. Well giving an opinion on it is totally different from making a review on it tho. Like my opinion on Doraemon is repetitve and boring 4/10, but I wont put this on a review you know what I mean? But i guess having a similar taste is of no concern. |
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Caboose said: the problem is most of those review totaly ignoring how the series supposed to do and judge them as the way it is. it's not matter of perspective, it's just balancing you personal bias and target audience bias.I don't think so. Just as a show has a target audience so too does a review. Reviews on MAL are to help inform other MAL users (mostly teens and young adults) as to rather or not they may enjoy a show. There is no reason for a review to force it's perspective to be that of the shows target audience. |
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| In a perfect world, yes you should. Every genre has their own intents and purposes, so when you see crap like "there's too much fanservice" in a review of an ecchi anime, you should get a reality check. Seriously Unfortunately however, few people can truly be that open-minded about everything. I try my best to do it but I can't say I'm flawless in that area either It's also pretty senseless for someone who clearly hates a certain genre to keep writing reviews for series of that type. I mean it'll only end up one way regardless of what the show in question actually contains. I.E: it won't actually be helpful to read for anyone else at all |
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| No. Probably get a person who can actually judge entertainment for what it actually is & rate it accordingly. The logic behind this is that kids like fucking everything. Give 'em Clannad, they'll probably like that too. A person for the target audience is always bias.. But how do you plan to do any of that anyway? How are you gonna implement it? |
Mathwizard said: In my opinion I gave Smile Precure 8/10. As a little girl I would probably give it a 10/10. I feel weird gender bending myself in this way. I liked the characters, the story, and the art style so I don't see how different a little girl's opinions would be, but they probably wouldn't be as good at writing reviews. Little kids also really suck at spelling so a review from them would be hard to read.zombie_pegasus said: If I wanted to review a season of Precure would it be better to view it from the eyes of a 4-12 year old girl or a 16-35 year old man? I'm an 18 year old man so I'm actually part of the latter demographic, but the former demographic is who it was originally intended for. I've never been a little Japanese girl before so I can't exactly see it from their perspective. We obviously have similar enough taste that I should be allowed to give my own honest opinion on it. Well giving an opinion on it is totally different from making a review on it tho. Like my opinion on Doraemon is repetitve and boring 4/10, but I wont put this on a review you know what I mean? But i guess having a similar taste is of no concern. If you found that review offensive in any way, ask a 4 year old to review their favourite movie and they'll probably do about as good of a job. |
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zombie_pegasus said: Mathwizard said: In my opinion I gave Smile Precure 8/10. As a little girl I would probably give it a 10/10. I feel weird gender bending myself in this way. I liked the characters, the story, and the art style so I don't see how different a little girl's opinions would be, but they probably wouldn't be as good at writing reviews. Little kids also really suck at spelling so a review from them would be hard to read.Well giving an opinion on it is totally different from making a review on it tho. Like my opinion on Doraemon is repetitve and boring 4/10, but I wont put this on a review you know what I mean? But i guess having a similar taste is of no concern. If you found that review offensive in any way, ask a 4 year old to review their favourite movie and they'll probably do about as good of a job. That show sounds entertaining to a little girl. So yeah, that's the point i am trying to prove: Reviews are meant to be read by the targent audience. |
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| No. Pandering to the target audience isn't good. Besides, not everyone in the target audience is necessarily going to enjoy it. Plus, opinions from people not in that audience are the most interesting. They're the outsiders, they view it in a different way and can find something new in it. As a kid, I would've completely missed the depth of Medabots or Digimon Tamers. |
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| If the reviewer is true with their age, why not? But the problem is... there were tons of MAL reviews written by kids that pretend to be adult. XD |
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| I rate in context of the genre, rather than the target population. Similar enough though. |
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GesuYarou said: No. Probably get a person who can actually judge entertainment for what it actually is & rate it accordingly. The logic behind this is that kids like fucking everything. Give 'em Clannad, they'll probably like that too. A person for the target audience is always bias.. But how do you plan to do any of that anyway? How are you gonna implement it? I actually think Clannad will bore kids to death cuz the start is freaking slow and their attention spans are usually short. Well if i have to write a review, I will structure my review to answer the followig question. 1) what will you see as an outsider? 2) will what you see be in line with what you expect to see as a target audience? The extent to which the expectation and the reality differs in 2) shall provide a rating for the target audience. |
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Mathwizard said: GesuYarou said: No. Probably get a person who can actually judge entertainment for what it actually is & rate it accordingly. The logic behind this is that kids like fucking everything. Give 'em Clannad, they'll probably like that too. A person for the target audience is always bias.. But how do you plan to do any of that anyway? How are you gonna implement it? I actually think Clannad will bore kids to death cuz the start is freaking slow and their attention spans are usually short. Well if i have to write a review, I will structure my review to answer the followig question. 1) what will you see as an outsider? 2) will what you see be in line with what you expect to see as a target audience? The extent to which the expectation and the reality differs in 2) shall provide a rating for the target audience. Yeah, probably not Clannad, no one likes dat shit.. I agree with you on those two points but you'll need to get people who aren't bias & can recognize what the show wants to be and where it deviates & messes up.. But if you're talking about the MAL Review section I wouldn't keep my hopes up on that if I were you.. |
| I think there should be a clear cut difference beween paragraphs which pertain to your own personal opinion and the more unbiased factual paragraphs. "This is an ecchi series, with high amounts of nudity." "I don't like nudity though." If someone goes into a series like that where they know they're going to be having big problems with it, and basically hating the anime for being what it is, their review is going to suffer a lot for it. However, I think if people realise they aren't the target demographic but enjoyed it nonetheless, it could be a nice touch to mention that on their review. "I'm a 35 year old married banker, but I still really enjoyed this magical girl series. It did X and Y well which enticed me and made it enjoyable even for people outside of the target demographic." |
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| People usually rate anime from their own perspective based on personal enjoyment. Only few rate it objectively, and I don't see a problem in either of cases. Sure something like Shojou anime or anime for kids might have lower ratings because of that, but again, it just some rating, taking rating seriously will ruin the purpose... |
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| I am review. Target audiences ain't my name, Considering others is my great shame. Denouncing the evils of thought and love. Projecting my truths with nought a shove. Be it in genre or tundra; They male or whale! Person. Perversion. Let everyone know their opinions mean nothing In the face of mine terrible superior writing. |
| If every review was from the perspective of the target audience, Sword Art Online would be considered a masterpiece by everyone with even a single sensible cell in their body. |
| By this theory, I shouldn't watch half of the amines I watched. As a girl, I watch Shounens. Now, that I'm more than 18, I can't say I watch only Jousei (in fact, I watched just one). So, it may be interesting idea, but unfortunately, not really relevant. For example, in the country I come from (I don't know about others), Black Butler is more popular among girls despite in being a shounen. Does it make is not as good? Does is mesn girls can't enjoy it? So, no. Impossible. I think it may be relevant if a 13 watch and 17 years old series and find it to violent. That's probably because it's not meant for his age. When one can be done is to add an option of gender and age. |
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Miraclezify said: funny enough, i am sucker for harem, fantasy, trapped on game, OP mc, ETC, and i don't really find it masterpiece. does ecchi lovers automaticaly find every ecchi series masterpiece? same answer.If every review was from the perspective of the target audience, Sword Art Online would be considered a masterpiece by everyone with even a single sensible cell in their body. |
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Miraclezify said: Yeaaaah no that's not quite how it works. Liking a certain genre =/= liking every single show that exists from that genreIf every review was from the perspective of the target audience, Sword Art Online would be considered a masterpiece by everyone with even a single sensible cell in their body. |
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