Mini Game v12: Easter Egg Mafia | Game Over - Good Bunnies Win

RE1031 said:
I have some somewhat detailed reads but I'm not going to post it until the end of this phase because I have a feeling they'd interfere with the night kill (unless anyone thinks it's necessary). But, my highest suspicion now is a Crossbell/Ruu team.

Ruu said:
@Oyasumi_Rosie do us all a favour and kill logic xD (or Shin/wen) one of them is scum for sure.

wen294 said:

Hmmmm, aren't those the 3 people that said they scumread you..?
Now i wonder why you suddenly have them as scum reads...

logic340 said:

@RE1031 - You kind of coerced Rosie into claiming TPR. I've had s fairly strong town read on you but Rosie flip makes me feel like I need to look back at those interactions.

logic340 said:
@wen - what is your current read on Shinichi? If you could look over the thoughts section of my ISO and tell me you agree or disagree? I'm going to look over it again and try to update it later.

RE1031 said:

I had no control over what she decided to say, nor was I the first person to suggest she was TPR. Not once did she decide to try to defend herself as town, or even explain her reasoning in voting for Melanoid, other than to try to break a tie, which given the vote count at the time, was hard to believe. I have no intention of rereading those posts, but by all means, go ahead.

wen294 said:
Bit rood to ask maybe but can you edit your #7 and place a link to your ISOs in it?
It's a bit of a hassle for everybody to look for them every time xD

(sorry i'm lazy and i want you to do my work for me lol)

RE1031 said:

I had no control over what she decided to say, nor was I the first person to suggest she was TPR. Not once did she decide to try to defend herself as town, or even explain her reasoning in voting for Melanoid, other than to try to break a tie, which given the vote count at the time, was hard to believe. I have no intention of rereading those posts, but by all means, go ahead.

Shinichi-Kun said:


I dont think it changes the fact that you were one of thoe people that brought the idea to light, so for her to flip town is still makes u think why were you so sure she was tpr?

Shinichi-Kun said:
Also i find the chances of the bomb role being the tpr so bs, its so easy for scum to hide behind this its not even funny.

Are you all sriously ok with just accepting that shes tpr?

Shinichi-Kun said:
I never thought for a second rosie was scum i literally only lynched her cause of her tpr claim, so this honestly pisses me off.

Suzune-chan said:
@Togs From a catchup perspective this game is brutal. Their egg is not revealed on their flip, so you have to go back to page one and scroll all the way down to the list. Then you need to scroll all the way up to see what it did. The fact that everything is spread out so much is tough...

Togs said:
I apologize, if it helps I included a list of roles on every votecount.. If you have any suggestions on how to make it easier on you, I'd be willing to listen >_<

Suzune-chan said:
I'm going to keep this page running too, so if you want to ask me anything please feel free too. While there is a lot of talk about it day one, I do not know what the person I replaced into requested on their initial list so I apologise but I will be unable to provide that information.

@Togs From a catchup perspective this game is brutal. Their egg is not revealed on their flip, so you have to go back to page one and scroll all the way down to the list. Then you need to scroll all the way up to see what it did. The fact that everything is spread out so much is tough...

Suzune-chan said:
Honestly if you would just put their egg next to their role in the first post and in the flips, it would greatly help. It is just the up down, up down when people talk about eggs and I have to look them up that drives me bonkers.

Togs said:
Okay, apologies again and I can definitely do that.

WyNdZ said:

How is it possible to coerce someone who is town to claim tpr? Rosie's claim made no sense and the only person to blame for that is Rosie herself.

I see :/ Maybe you can give me some tips on how I could have used my role better once this game is done.
Ummm who is they? Are you talking about Zymf or me or someone else?

Motivated from a place of safely? Not sure what that means.
I wasn't really frustrated, I just did what I thought was in the best interests of the town. I felt like revealing the information at that point in time would be beneficial. Up till that point I felt that we didn't accomplish much of day 1 which is actually common because we have literally zero information on day 1. After my reveal we at least had some information.

By other way around do you mean zymf being mafia and I being town? Because yes that's impossible, if zymf is mafia then I'm guaranteed to be mafia. If I'm town then zymf if guaranteed to be town.

WyNdZ said:

It was on day 2 that we voted on Rosie and it was not because she tried to break a tie but because she almost created a tie. If I didn't change my vote in the last minute there would have been a tie. Literally within the span of ten seconds I changed my vote, Rosie put her vote on melanoid 6 seconds later and then like 4 seconds later time was up.

WyNdZ said:

Well in the set up of the game third party is written so I assume there should be one. I thought about this and even said at one point that the third party can't kill town because it would be overkill to have two factions killing with such less players.
Doesn't mean the third party is a survivor, could be anything else like stuff related to who gets lynched. Could be a jester where the third party needs to get lynched on day 1 or could be to tie the votes (what I thought after rosie almost made a tie ) or literally anything else.
Point being we have no idea whether tpr is harmful to town or not.

WyNdZ said:

Haha I'm officially confused. There's like a double or like triple negative if you count avoid as a negative. The sentence is anyways complicated as it is.

As for the second point, that point was replying to RE's post assuming both zymf and I are mafia. I said that if I was lynched and was revealed to be mafia it would make people suspect zymf and he would likely be lynched next. If zymf was lynched and was revealed as mafia I would basically be confirmed to be mafia and would be lynched next. My point being if RE's assumption that both of us were mafia was correct it would be stupid of me to try to protect zymf with that claim as it basically makes us connected. If would make the town have a kill two birds with one stone situation.

Damn time is almost up for night 2. I'l post this much of my reply so far and reply to the next part if I'm still alive.

Suzune-chan said:
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@Logic340
77 This shows knowledge and understanding of the role and an interest in keeping town alive. While explosions take out town, they can also be a double edged sword. This comment is Pro-town Naturally Rosie’s follow up was super scummy though, and they were town….
141 It is for that reason that mafia probably has at least one of them. Mafia in name alone and unlikely to be caught doing something.
182 but green always looks town to the players. Therefore, it would be a strong role if the mafia threw it at their own teammates. Playing this game, Mafia, we usually associate red with scum and green with town. Therefore, the color change to green would change how people look at it making it active manipulation.

Suzune-chan said:

-People ask about roles that are not their all the time. The fact that Logic asked about Shinichi’s role and claimed that only he should ask things like that is also strange. Town will ask about scum roles, scum will almost never ask about town roles in the topic, therefore, it stands to reason that Logic is more townie in that exchange because scum rarely ask about people’s roles on the topic, and the fact that it peeves Shinichi means that he feels there is something to hide from that information. Thus logic looks better then shi in that exchange. It took too long to quote it.

Suzune-chan said:

@Logic340

356The fact that you think you can read Ruu with such confidence actually makes me discredit your ruu read. You are clearly bias about it and the other person learns from that. In fact, there is no greater power for Ruu then to have to think you can always read her, that is how you learn how to hide yourself. Lucian used to do it to me, until I learned how to trick him.

379What is the point of this? A list of everything he has said. Why? Looks busy, but serves really know point because you did not provide a summary or opinion post afterwards.

Suzune-chan said:

@WyNDz

267 I said was not going to do this any more, but seriously you did not use your role right. Yes, I thought it was quite obvious that they were town. In fact, they could have screamed it in their posts and writing. Since there was little change they were going to be lynched today, this comes off as a waste. But I tend to think this scummy behavior as opposed to a town behavior because it is not motivated from a place of safely and instead reads as frustration. Seriously, there was wayyyyy too much time and this came off as a waste. In the post after this, I assume you are mafia not Zymf. Not the other way around. Actually the fact that you made that post seems glaringly painful to me.

Suzune-chan said:

Random Back and forths, I have opinions on

Is there a third party actually or is there just speculation. Let’s assume for a minute that there is, that would mean that their win condition would need to be survivor because there are no killing roles for them to obtain and no converting roles. Therefore, is there any actual reason to worry about a third party role? No.

-Why? Why is the lightning rod scum. That means that this game essentially had no night phases until he was lynched. I mean, using that ability gives scum no night phases. None. So that means that scum must not have anything to lose by having the lightning rod….Honestly though I think this lynch was just lucky and does not clear anyone.

logic said:
1. I've never been a fan of self sacrifice (though there are obviously exceptions to this rule) but Stray Dog really kind of cemented this feeling for me.
2. Yes I had also speculated somewhere that Mafia may take these roles in an effort to hide their intentions. I believe Wyndz and I discussed it somewhere between page 5-10
3. I guess this is why people show displeasure with the way I do my vote counts. While I do it to she my PoV it can unintentionally manipulate the reader?

logic said:
If Amnesiac were to get the Peeker role they could potentially learn a second confirmed townie or confirm the information Wyndz gave us if he was given the same player. I found it odd he argued with me about that but it really isn't anything new for me and Shinichi so I really didn't take anything alignment indicative from it.

logic said:
1. I came to the same conclusion of my personal biased when doing her ISO. I would love to hear what you think of my thoughts when you get to it.
2. I had said I would do it D1 but didn't have time to finish it before phase change. I couldn't finish so I posted what I had so others would know I was working on it and could have his posts to go over themselves. I posted the complete ISO I #584. You say I was trying to look busy but do I really need to try and look busy there?

logic340 said:
1. Based on the win conditions for town and mafia I assume that there is one. Based on my win con of "Eliminate All Threats" it seems to me that if there is a TPR they are hostile to town I some way? Survivor can generally win with either side correct? So if that is the case would they be considered a threat to town.
2. I also thought it was quite lucky as you will see I my interaction with Mela D2.

WyNdZ said:

There were no votes on me when I revealed yes but I basically said if you don't believe me and think zymf is scum then just vote on me instead. I was basically taking the burden of zymf who had the highest votes at that point onto myself. There was also the fact that some people in particular melanoid (who you replaced) thought that lynching me to get a confirmed townie was a good idea. I also knew people might find it scummy that I just coincidentally confirmed the person who had the most votes on them to be confirmed townie and I was right as that is exactly what RE thought. All in all I felt I had a decent chance of getting lynched after the reveal.

If zymf was lynched what do you think would be people's reaction when they ask me who is the confirmed townie on night 1? If I said oh the confirmed townie is the one you guys just lynched and who you all know is a townie before I told you. I'd be lynched next wasting two town day phases while the mafia would be laughing at my stupidity.

Revealing close to phase change would create chaos and would not give people time to process the information. I'm gonna be honest I'm not confident in my ability to create a train in some other direction especially on day 1 when there is minimal information. Also I would basically be forcefully creating a train on someone else who could be town as well just to get attention away from zymf. Not the smartest idea in my opinion.

WyNdZ said:
RIP Wen, I'll miss you roasting other players with your jokes.

WyNdZ said:


Wow I absolutely disagree with that statement. Firstly if I didn't say anything people would get suspicious most probably like Shinichi had stated. Also that second point really makes me question if you're on the town's side or not.

I only have information on one confirmed townie, lieing about the confirmed townie would be detrimental to the town. How can I be sure who is actually a town and who is mafia? Only the mafia knows that information. The fact that you suggested such an idea makes me wonder if you're actually on the town's side.

Suzune-chan said:
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@Shinichi-Kun
44Why ever not my good sir. Especially now that we are moving into day three it would be interesting to see how people were chosen. Especially in a game where the gambit is known early, why not discuss how people were selected in it. Or are you worried that people looked to pick things that were mafia? Some roles are more easily aligned that way afterall.
103 Mason is powerful for both alignments. But strongest for mafia.
120It would have to be a control thing. As the game goes on the role becomes deadlier and deadlier. It is like waiting for someone to reveal an innocent child. The longer the information is held as the game goes on the more valuable it comes. Eventually the mafia will take notice. If they don’t that says something too.
-Shinichi-kun is playing to close the chest

Suzune-chan said:

-People ask about roles that are not their all the time. The fact that Logic asked about Shinichi’s role and claimed that only he should ask things like that is also strange. Town will ask about scum roles, scum will almost never ask about town roles in the topic, therefore, it stands to reason that Logic is more townie in that exchange because scum rarely ask about people’s roles on the topic, and the fact that it peeves Shinichi means that he feels there is something to hide from that information. Thus logic looks better then shi in that exchange.