Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racial Separatism vs Racial Supremacy
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect. PhilKnight (talk) 20:28, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Racial Separatism vs Racial Supremacy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Disputed WP:PROD. Subjectively it fails WP:SOAP for advocacy and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view by its very nature. The current sources fail Wikipedia:Sources as questionable: one Geocities user page, one church and two self-described advocacy sites, one of which can be considered extremist. 9Nak (talk) 13:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Merge. I think the compare and contrast of these two terms is not relevant enough to warrant its own article, however I do think the valid points could be merged into the appropriate Supremacy and Segregation articles. Addionne (talk) 16:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as a POV essay defending a practice. To the extent that this has any notability as a topic it should be covered in the appropriate articles. --Dhartung | Talk 18:45, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete and redirect to
Racial segregationSeparate but equal - could not be NPOV under this title --T-rex 19:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply] - STRONG delete - WP:SOAP indeed. I like the part about "scholars cannot agree" ... 64.107.182.4 (talk) 19:45, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No redirect. I doubt that this would ever be a search term, and articles about racial separatism or racial supremacy should not be redirected to an article about segregation in any event. Ironically, this article suggests that a separatist movement by rebels, and separation of the races by a government, would both be described as "racial separatism", and... trying not to laugh here... "it opposes racism". Yeah, separate but equal was very benevolent. Mandsford (talk) 20:53, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- On second thought separate but equal is probably a better redirect location --T-rex 00:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It is very, very clear that racial separatism and supremacy is two different set of beliefs! Other articles on wikipedia about this subject confirms this! The only reason for the creation of this page is to make research about the topic a little bit easier for wikipedia users.--Adi Schlebusch (talk) 05:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps you can contribute your two cents worth to those other articles. Thus, in Generally, "apples vs. oranges" articles aren't kept on Wikipedia because there are infinite pairs that one can compare and contrast. Thus, in the article racial supremacy, you can add something to the effect that "separation of the races or separatist movements are not synomnyms for racial supremacy". Mandsford (talk) 12:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as POV article. I don't know if a redirect is overly helpful, I don't see this being a very popular search term. --Deadly∀ssassin 10:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please see the more redirects the better --T-rex 15:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I had to go look up policy on this one; Wikipedia:Redirects#Neutrality_of_redirects sanctifies POV redirects, so even if this title is WP:SOAP (or offensive, even) it makes no difference. But my vote for redirect target is Racism, which already has material on the academic discourse, justifications and historical context. If there is a need to discuss the supposed difference between supremacy and segregation, then Racism is the place. 9Nak (talk) 17:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please see the more redirects the better --T-rex 15:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see what I can do. I'll try to merge some of the information into the already existing articles. I understand that the information might be insufficient for a separate article, but it is certainly neccesary.--Adi Schlebusch (talk) 17:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Search for consensus on where to point the redirect to moved to the talk page. 9Nak (talk) 11:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- All righty then; assuming there are no objections, redirecting to Racism and requesting AfD closure. 9Nak (talk) 16:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.