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==Old messages==
Almost seems like this article should actually be titled something like [[Gold box engine]]. [[User:Atorpen|Atorpen]] 18:08 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)
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:Then shouldn't the language be clarified to reflect that?[[Special:Contributions/64.9.35.4|64.9.35.4]] ([[User talk:64.9.35.4|talk]]) 19:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)Bill Loguidice
::What do you propose? I'm working to improve this article, so any help is appreciated. I don't remember what the Dragon review specifically said, but I can go back into it and look. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 19:31, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:::[[User:BOZ|BOZ]] Sadly with this game coming out in June 1988 and [[Advanced_Dungeons_%26_Dragons:_Heroes_of_the_Lance|Heroes of the Lance]] by SSI coming out in January 1988, there is no way this statement can hold true because the same company released a game 5 months prior for all the same systems with AD&D boldly on the cover. It may have been the first in the SSI Gold Box series, but it wasnt the "first adaptation of AD&D for home computers" by a long stretch as many other pages on Wikipedia refute that claim. [[User:Shadzar|shadzar]]-[[User_talk:Shadzar|talk]] 05:52, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
== Dragon #143 review ==
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== Merge Discussion (Dec 2012) ==
Ok, so the result of the AfD was '''Keep''' pending that it gets merged. So. Let's getting merging. [[User:Webwarlock|Web Warlock]] ([[User talk:Webwarlock|talk]]) 03:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
:I had my "unfinished buisness" dream last night, so I am ticking things off of my list of things to do. This was one of them. Merge and redirect completed. If someone wants to edit or undo, that is good by me. [[User:Webwarlock|Web Warlock]] ([[User talk:Webwarlock|talk]]) 14:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
== The projection in the combat part is not isometric: it's cavalier ==
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I've changed the wikilink to an article that better describes the kind of projection used. If this cavalier perspective is being described as "isometric" by (non-reliable in this case) game magazines, [[Isometric graphics in video games and pixel art]] should be updated to reflect that. [[User:Diego Moya|Diego]] ([[User talk:Diego Moya|talk]]) 15:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
:The solution you just implemented seems reasonable to me. [[Special:Contributions/24.12.74.21|24.12.74.21]] ([[User talk:24.12.74.21|talk]]) 15:25, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
== Requested move 13 January 2021 ==
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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move {{nac}} ([[User talk:Buidhe|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Buidhe|c]]) '''[[User:buidhe|<span style="color: black">buidhe</span>]]''' 00:54, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
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* [[:Pool of Radiance]] → {{no redirect|Pool of Radiance (video game)}}
* [[:Pool of Radiance (series)]] → {{no redirect|Pool of Radiance}}
– Per [[WP:NCVGDAB]], the series should occupy the primary spot. <sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 16:49, 13 January 2021 (UTC) <small>—'''''Relisting.''''' [[User:Natg 19|Natg 19]] ([[User talk:Natg 19|talk]]) 10:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)</small>
:'''Comment''' - Honestly, I'm not sure that "Pool of Radiance" is even the name of the series of games; do we have a [[WP:RS]] to back that up? I have doubts that the series of games that the original Pool of Radiance spawned is well known by that same name. This is not the same as the [[Neverwinter Nights]] and [[Baldur's Gate]] series of games, where the sequels had Roman numerals and it is easy to clearly identify that the games are part of the same series by their names. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 21:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
:*{{reply|BOZ}} You may have a point. I will withdraw this if consensus is to merge the series article into [[Gold Box]], or some other name is thought of.<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 14:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
::That's fair. I don't have any particular feelings about the series page at all, other than being skeptical about its name when the article was first created; merging into [[Gold Box]] would make sense if that is what other people would want to do. [[User:BOZ|BOZ]] ([[User talk:BOZ|talk]]) 22:39, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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== Reviews ==
*''[[:fr:Jeux et Stratégie|Jeux & Stratégie]]'' #55<ref>https://archive.org/details/jeux-et-strategie-55/page/60/mode/2up</ref>
[[Special:Contributions/207.229.139.154|207.229.139.154]] ([[User talk:207.229.139.154|talk]]) 16:49, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
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== June Release Date is Inaccurate ==
Checking into this entry for a research project, I was surprised to see a major discrepancy between the release date information given here (June 1988) and on MobyGames (October 1988 for C64). Unfortunately, a quick look at contemporary publications suggests that the June date is indeed inaccurate.
To begin with, the only source cited in support of the June date is a one-liner in ''Dragon'' magazine stating that ''Pool of Radiance'' would release in June 1988. However, SSI's own [[iarchive:ssi-catalog-1988/page/n1/mode/2up|Summer 1988 catalog]] lists the following projected dates for the game:
* C64 - July 1988
* IBM - August 1988
* Apple - September 1988
It's hard to say whether this was an error on the part of Jim Ward, who wrote the ''Dragon'' piece, or an unplanned delay after SSI had given him the June date. What is clear that the development of ''Pool of Radiance'' did not go according to schedule: a preview article in [[iarchive:Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_49/page/n19/mode/2up|Computer Gaming World Issue 49]], published in July 1988, claimed the IBM version was only ''"nearing completion"'' and explicitly warns that their advance copy was ''"not complete." '' The [[iarchive:RetroGamingProductCatalogs/Ssi-EnterAFantasticWorldOfComputerGamingfallwinterCatalog-1988-1989.pdf|Fall 1988 SSI catalog]] then bumped the IBM version to November 1988, the Apple edition to January 1989, and stated the C64 version is available ''"now."''
Since the catalog itself isn't dated, pinning down an approximate release for the C64 version requires looking at contemporary magazines.
[[iarchive:Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_51/page/n15/mode/2up|A retailer ad in Issue 51 of CGW]] (September 1988) lists the C64 version of Pool of Radiance as ''"coming soon." '' [[iarchive:Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_52/page/n35/mode/2up|The following issue (October 1988)]] has the C64 edition available for sale and the IBM version ''"coming soon."'' The earliest professional reviews of the C64 version also appeared in October 1988. As an additional data point, the Internet Archive hosts [[iarchive:Pool_of_Radiance_1988_SSI_Side_A_Boot_cr_PW|a cracked copy of the C64 version]] dated September 12, 1988. This suggests an early September release for the C64.
As for the IBM edition, in the November 1988 issue of CGW, [[iarchive:Computer_Gaming_World_Issue_53/page/n49/mode/2up|both the IBM and C64 versions are advertised.]] CGW itself would review the game the following month, indicating that SSI was able to keep their revised release date of November 1988. [[User:Iconocaust|Iconocaust]] ([[User talk:Iconocaust|talk]]) 05:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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