Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Omira, California

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Adequate WP:RS to pass WP:GNG and per WP:PLACEOUTCOMES (non-admin closure) ~ Amkgp 💬 17:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Omira, California

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As one geocaching site says: where's the church? The only thing at the location now is a group of farm buildings which may well represent a single property: it was up for sale recently enough (as the "Omira Ranch") to show up on Google, but everything else is railroad-related. I see no evidence that there was ever a town. Mangoe (talk) 14:01, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:04, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:04, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. Personally, I feel that if a location had a post office, then it was legally recognized and meets #1 of WP:GEOLAND. I acknowledge that others disagree, see Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(geographic_features)#Is_the_presence_of_Post_Office_sufficient_to_fulfill_legally_recognized_place?. Searching newspapers.com comes up with: a number of trivial classified ads, a trivial mention which states that the citizens of Omira subscribed to a memorial, some people moved from Omira and a dog walks 60 miles back home from Omira and the Omera station closed in 1927. These are all fairly trivial, but I feel the presence of the post office makes it notable. Cxbrx (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Some of this is misleading. Stations were put in all sorts of places, and post offices as well, due to the constraints of train operation and postal delivery before RFD. The "residents of" is a bit better but still a little iffy. The roving dog is just a name drop. Mangoe (talk) 15:56, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

(Ah, c'mon, the dog story was an interesting distraction... :-) ) Here's a 1998 article "County's towns have had various names that states "During this era new towns were being created such as Leavitt, Litchfield, Calneva, Stacy, Flanigan and Omira." Here's a birth by an Omira resident. "Laurence Jack Oatman, Omira," was called up to be examined for the WW I draft. And here's newlyweds being given a kitchen shower at Omira. These are all fairly trivial, but the preponderance of them does indicate that people lived there, but the trivial coverage is not in itself sufficient to make Omira notable. We disagree about whether the presence of a post office is sufficient for WP:GEOLAND #1. Disagreement is healthy, I realize that Omira will probably be deleted, which is OK. BTW - I thank you all your efforts going through these place articles, many of which were definitely not notable. Cxbrx (talk) 17:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

• Keep. An encyclopedia aims to be encyclopedic. Cxbrx has provided more than enough sources to show the location was regarded as a town in the past, so its current condition is simply irrelevant. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo). Treated like dirt by many administrators since 2006. Fight for freedom, stand with Hong Kong! (talk) 19:43, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
• Keep The sources found by Cxbrx establish that this was a real community, and one that had a post office. As far as I'm concerned, that's enough proof that we should have an article on it. TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 23:46, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
• Keep historical significance.CaffeinAddict (talk) 04:22, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
• Keep as it has been established that this was a real community with a post office. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 17:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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